I'll definitely read it. The queen dowager grows nervous when things are quiet for too long, but then a soldier runs in to tell her excitedly that they stormed the palace and captured the impostor king. She turns and theres Ha Sun, alive. Since Writer-nim didn't bother to reveal who patched up Ha Sun and kept him safe while he recovered, I'll fill in the blanks by assuming that he somehow ended up in the care of Doctor Monk. The doppelganger part. It made Ha Sun sound like the Winter General's bartender sister in HWAYUGI. Me, too. But overall i really had fun and thrill watching it. My second bean for 2019 . So-woon tells him that hes done enough, and that she supports his decision. (link to my Episode 8 write up because it wasnt letting me do it as a word hyperlink: http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/709687/ ). It makes me soooo maaadddd!!! And the drama did well as well. Jang Gwang. Do not base it on a doppelganger trope, only to IGNORE the implications and potential and importance of that doppelganger trope. So it was @sicarius who broke it. Let me follow your thoughts: The first scene in this episode sets the tone. When she gave her rings away and they found his compass. After a brief recap to the events of last week, we begin with Queen Dowager and the former Left State Minister plotting their next move. I expected a pair of little ones running in the yard! This shows single and greatest flaw, therefore, is ignoring the consequences of the King as a pre-existing character as determined by the premise of the show itself. By making Cray Cray entirely an insane drug addict, they set the bar for the Clown's superiority so damn low - because who can't top "insane drug addict" as an alternative ruler. The cliffhangers and the drums-terrific; and But hes not finished surprising us yet, as he contemplates a decision that could change the future of the entire nation. I neglected to state that Jin-goo's performances were great, and that Kim Sang-kyung is a new favorite. She decides to let Ha Sun pay tribute to Minister Lee, so he allows Minister Shin and Prince Jin-pyung to leave the palace. He can only be as abusive or violent or lost or addicted to drugs as his writing allows. Like you I would have liked to know more of the Lord Gil Sam Bong affair. *(Out of Character: not a logical decision for the character to make based on how they have acted previously). It wasnt explicitly said, but I believe that once he had gotten revenge on Minister Shin and the queen dowager, he realized that hed been using the throne for his own personal reasons and thats why he abdicated to someone who could truly put the country first. Gapsu raised the two kids but how did that happen? Yup, I concur with all your points, @marcusnyc20 bong-soo. Which is why it is still very (in)famous, known as the "MLSHR Phenomenon". I mean, i dropped this show about halfway through so I didn't watch the back half. The iconic Shawarma King has won the 'best in Scotland' title at the British Kebab Awards for the second time in a row, with the viral eatery on King Street describing their second win as . Now we agreed about Lookout too, so that doesnt surprise me. and so on. . Premiere Watch: Neighborhood Lawyer Jo Deul-ho 2, The Crowned Clown, Whats Wrong Mr. Poong-sang, The clown gets a lesson on how to be a king, Three teasers for The Man Who Became King, Lee Kyu-han joins The Man Who Became King, Yeo Jin-gu, Lee Se-young become the king and queen of Joseon, First script read for The Man Who Became King, The Man Who Became King confirms main pairing Yeo Jin-gu, Lee Se-young, Lee Se-young courted to be Yeo Jin-gus queen in Gwanghae remake, http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/709687/, LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi. Which means they both died. The goodbye scene to Eunuch Jo sniff so beautiful so sad. Peace has descended across the land and now the attention turns who the new heir to the throne may well be. I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. In this video, we give a full ending expla. The sweeping under the rug of the regicide, adultery, and treasonous impersonation issues was problematic for me. In order to escape those who plan to assassinate him, the King puts a clown, who looks exactly like him, on the throne. appId : '127538621120543', And after all that complaining, that was where it truly felt like an ending, except for what happened during those two years. And that there was a happy ending, of course! Or is he just slow witted when it comes to matters like his own safety? Monk Jung Saeng agrees that Minister Lee wouldnt want them to die for nothing. But it was all real, which made me more disappointed than I thought. She notes that this is her first time seeing the throne in person, and that Prince Yul is dead, but her blood will soon sit on the throne. Minister Lee was doing it to create a better world, and he never denied that what he was doing was wrong he accepted that he would be punished, but he was willing to sacrifice himself for his country. What was the point? Perhaps because of unavoidable comparison, CROWNED CLOWN has come up a bit short. Another girl suggested The king loves. I guess my only questions are: Why? The drama version had put their own spin on it. See you over at HAECHI, which I am enjoying so far. Because a writer can write a 'bad' end, but if properly done no one can challenge it or be confused. They wanted, I think, to tell the story of someone from a lower class who is better at serving the people of a nation than those who have been corrupted in power; they wanted to tell the story of what it would be like to put someone like a Clown on the throne, and what it would be like for a Clown to fall in love with a Queen. More politics and history but with last weeks (30 min.) And he shouldve been. However, they should have shown the Queen passing on so that Ho-Sun could have been stated met her in the afterlife. Nevertheless, it takes me a while to get my thoughts in order, so I don't comment in a timely fashion. The Crowned Clown Season 1 2019 16+ A low-class commoner clown, sits in the throne of the King who is in peril of losing his country. // Load the SDK asynchronously 1. I think they could show us the Lord "I don't remember his name" rebellion because it was not very clear and still had a big place in the story of this character. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; I was interested in Moon Lovers, but when I read only bad comments, I searched for synopsis and ending and actually it had so much so much potential that it's a pity it went that way. It would have been fun to watch someone as stoic as him being all awkward around someone as bubbly and mischievous as she is. And then they walk off into the sunset andwhat? I enjoy things I also think are objectively bad. What does a clown symbolize? Ha Sun kept his nose to the grindstone, and lined up a successor. 3.2/4 The Crown season 4 ended with Christmas at Balmoral. One day, Ha Suns ministers bring up the fact that hes led the country to a time of peace, but hes still produced no heirs. So what!? Didnt want it to end. She asks him to absolve her of her title first, so that instead of becoming the queen dowager and staying in the palace, she can go away and wait for him to join her. ;-). A few final thoughts: No kiss for the finale? I didn't even recognize him from his turn as wild and crazy PD Lee Gang in RADIO ROMANCE. For those who are interested and have watched the whole drama, I wrote an essay on why I interpreted it as a tragedy: file:///Users/zozosparklesicloud.com/Downloads/The%20Crowned%20Clown%20(1).pdf. (Maybe even a Lord GSB cameo by Lee Byung-hyun?). Shes the most despicable queen dowager ever, worth being poisoned to death immediately afterwards. So I dropped it. While Ha Sun is studying in the library, Eunuch Jo says that he hasnt been sleeping and suggests he go to bed early. But still if you look exactly like the king and sitting on the throne no one would dare to question you, unless you are bold like shin and he knew what he was talking about. I'm glad the ending was portrayed as such, a little sad for those who would only ever want to find what they dont like instead of balancing it out and pointing out what they might have done well. I was confused too about why the queen dowager spoke to Ha Sun as the king. I am relatively new to historical dramas but I am enjoying them. I was lucky, it was so beautiful about music, acting, costumes, and I appreciated that there was balance between politics and romance. Just when I thought this drama couldnt get any worse they introduced the seperation trope! They weren't flawless, but they honored their own internal logic and the characters' developmental arcs. Why not start writing? 2. I also do not agree with the author of the recap -- that protecting the power of the king is protecting the people. So what if youre a prince. Nobody knows why. I must have been bonkers. Minister Lee didn't see himself as a hero but more like a tool for his country not good or bad but useful. Honestly, its not even the underlying moral issues that are never addressed by this show, although sure they annoy me on a personal level, and I have argued about them till Kingdom come; its that a core ingredient for plot and character was just IGNORED in order for them to try and push the story they wanted to tell. I enjoyed this more than most of the sageuks I've seen. Cingu, I promise to read your essay but right now I gotta get away from the Cray Cray for a few hours and take a nap or something. Director Kim Hee-won is a new discovery for me, and I definitely see why everyone praised her as they did. Whether you were satisfied with the finale or not, there's no doubt about it, The Crowned Clown delivered one heck of a rollercoaster ride for its finale. I don't hate it, just think that the ending could have been better executed. Nope it was kinda too long. He never had a chance to be anything other than a plot device that was promptly forgotten. After the Secretary stabbed Prince Jin, the Queen thanks Jin for his work thus far and instead vows to put another puppet in her stead on the throne to control. }; They look at each other lovingly for a long time, then Ha Sun takes So-woons hand, and they walk home together. General Kang asks whether he should bring his men to the capital or prepare to fight at the border. A. It was beautiful how everything was brought full-circle yet felt natural, like Gap-soo and Dal-lae going back to their clown troupe, Woon-shim deciding to see the world, and especially So-woon wishing Ha Sun back to her with a hazelnut. I really liked to see how the generosity of this character touched the people around him. In the courtyard, she never loses her hostile pride as she drinks the poison and succumbs to its effects. Episode 1 King Seonjo dies, and his fears about the fate of his youngest son Prince Yul come true when his successor Yi Heon (Gwanghae-gun) orders Prince Yul's arrest for treason. :). Kwon Hae-hyo delivered with bells on in the ruthless social-climbing department until Lord Shin inexplicably lost the plot at the end of the show. This probably means I have to watch "Vincenzo" to find out what Kim Hee-won's visual style is.) It showed his relationships. I'm glad I tuned in. knew it would happen before the end of this drama: line 7, strike TTC and insert TCC. I agree with you that I would have liked to seen Yi Heon's back story pre crazy King and addiction. That's how much attention to details that was being paid to the king and his daily routine. I don't know whether it was the difference in tone between it and CROWNED CLOWN, too many details, or what. The premise of this show is the story of a Clown who became King. Was glad when I saw Officer Jang want to accompany him, but then when those assassins attacked I was like????? Shes decided to leave the gibang, and she tells Ho-geol that she intends to travel and just enjoy life for a while. 4 Jul 2021. And it's this point that made the drama very interesting. He was awesome!! And why didn't the rebels have scouts out to spot the approaching relief army? In the history of my country we had a doppelganger fake king ruling for 6 years. Rather than be daring, some parts felt more sensational than meaningful. I was relieved that he survived the rebellion, and presumably will serve the new king for years to come. It was a peculiar incident. Ha Sun travels with Lord Giseong and sees people hard at work in a field. I really loved this show, but they botched it in the end. I was surprise when Ha Sun decide to abdicated but again it just makes the ending more beautiful. Why kill officer Jang So random. I doubt the ministers were this stupid not to reveal something that they know to be true. I can believe lots of things, like time travel, zombies or moving with one suitcase, but not having scouts when you know the other side is expecting reinforcements is so absurd it's offensive. Alas, it never materialized. His fears. Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. That there was a progression to his devolution and, put into the same environment, the Clown was going to start to devolve the same way. Why didnt the Queen let his sister know who she was, Also I was also confused at how Shin got back in the palace back in his uniform for the assembly meeting when he broke out of jail And was sentenced to death, Because I loved the drama so much and was on the edge of my seat I was expecting a Scarlet Heart type ending or Queen for Seven Days even but do t get this one at all but would still give it 9/10. FB.init({ It WAS a good decision for Ha Seon to abdicate. I swear you won't regret it. But for the ending, thats a 4/10 for me. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { Finally its time for Ha Sun to go. And I absolutely loved the ending, with Ha Sun abdicating the throne, because Ive never felt okay with the idea of his keeping it when it really never belonged to him. Here is hoping that they'll space out the upcoming sageuks. Could have had someone stab Officer Jang and as they're about to finish him he picks up a sword and kills the man, then the man with the arrow could have shot him, then Jang could have killed the man and collapsed, leading us to think that both he and Jang are dead. The fact that he did it on his own, without Minister Lees help, was sad but also impressive, and he proved to himself that hes capable of anything despite his low birth. ;-). Why not let him save Ha Seon and then serve him for those two magic years? What right do they have to the throne? Irrelevant time frame. What a lovely ending. Ha Sun was a good king, and he could have been a great king, but he wasnt a happy king. It was a beautiful journey, and when the last episode ended I felt a little sad to say goodbye to them all. [ENG SUB] Lee Se Young interviews Yeo Jin Goo for Cosmopolitan KoreaPart 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJovfWJncToPart 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=. Grrr. Lord giseong is a prince as i understood. Because whoever Yi Heon was, according to the makers of this show, no longer matters. I'm probably in the minority for this opinion, but I thought it was a bold move for the show to have Lee Kyu kill the king in secret and become the "king" from the shadows. But the Clown woke him up and he realized he could do good for korean people. My take on the ending was that he was nursed back to health though we dont know how and who took care of him. And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. . While there were memorable scenes and dialogue, I feel like the overall message the show was trying to convey got muddled along the way. When Kab-soo and Dal-rae's clown troupe arrived where Ha Sun had intended to rendezvous with the former Queen, I wondered how the guardian managed to leave his job working for the navy in Ha Sun's hometown. This was my first YJG drama and it is hard to believe he is only 21 years old. One of these days I intend to watch SHIN DON, which may overlap with JEONG DO JEON. I read the first two parts and loved it and wrote my comment even before I read the recap, because I've been dying to since I skipped my way through the finale (what does it even say about a show finale that I skipped everything but the last bit and still got it right), and then I came back just now and read the other two parts and also loved those. But im note sure what was recorded of the kings in those days, like to what extent (like records on poop lol that was hilarious ). 4 Recommended by Shawarma I cannot watch two sageuks at the same time without getting the details bollixed up, even if they're set in different time periods. Mohamed Al-Fayed's expectations for his son Dodi are the cliff upon which Season 5 leaves its audience hanging. The recaps were enough. Loved loved loved this drama till the ending And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! Because the show you THOUGHT you were getting, the doppelganger plot with the tension and juxtaposition created by that, is actually a different show altogether. Because it seeemed that he was a good Crown Prince until his dad died and made this stupid discour before. But I dont know the Clown. That being said I don't believe TCC passes either the probability or possibility test. If they had planned to make Ha-Sun abdicate the at the very least I wish they could've introduced his successor before so it didn't feel like he came outta nowhere. I could only assume that Moo-young's sparring sessions with His Majesty paid off as the latter skewered Lord Shin. He lived such a hard, unfeeling and regimented life and then to have him finally decide to do something for himself by leaving with Hasunonly to make him die with his 'wish' to die with the King?? It signalled me that it's highly probable he doesn't have enough control over the other departments either, which are Plot Consistency, Believability and Execution. She says that hed have lived a long life if he hasnt been greedy for the throne, but she tells him in a cold voice that shell make good use of his soldiers, and give the throne to Lord Younghwa instead. And I always love reading your reviews. As is so aptly stated in NIRVANA IN FIRE, Time flows like water, and what has gone cannot come again. Give it a rest, Pakalana. The ending failed. You know, I was angry at the How I Met Your Mother finale, like really, spitting flames type angry. He says that even if he stepped down and one of them took the throne, the country would be okay. She showed no remorse for him being gone after that point. Distracted, Moo-young tries to get to Ha Sun, but hes stopped by a sword through the chest. I personally think they could have used the King's death and still told an interesting and important story. Why stop there? Haksan had to die for his sins. I'm gonna stick to my version, the ending of this series was right after he installed the Tax Law. But he's not finished surprising us yet, as he contemplates a decision that could change the future of the entire nation. But he did not return right away because he wanted to make it appear to the people that the real King was in fact assasinated and waited two years before he surfaced as Ha-seon, a clown surfaced that closely resembles the dead king. Lord Giseong agrees, saying that a kings job is to approve court discussions and take responsibility for the consequences, not wield power as he pleases, and Ha Sun regards him thoughtfully. But, instead of Ha Seon finding his sister and the ahjae and living happily ever after with them and So Woon, which I thought would be logical progression Tags: Lee Se-young, The Crowned Clown, Yeo Jin-gu, Your email address will not be published. Thats is why the drama is "Crowned clown" or "the man who became king" . Minister Shin manages to growl, You lowly clown before Ha Sun yanks back his sword and slashes his throat. But i don't think thats what happened. And nobody found out the Clown wasnt the King because the King is dead. KINGDOM, alas, also got short shrift from me because it was too much to juggle with CROWNED CLOWN. It did its intended purpose. Eunuch Jo asks to come with him, but Ha Sun says he cant because hes recommended him for a promotion, and the new king needs him as much as he did when he first arrived in the palace. For all the aforementioned reasons. Thanks for noting that Yoon Park portrayed Ha Sun's successor, Lord Giseong. It was unconvincing. 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